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of these fiscal cliff talks that are causing such volatility in the market here? >> well, bill, as you said, we are long-term investors. we really don't find ourselves wanting to move things around that much. >> you're not playing these swings here? you don't buy on dips? >> we're not playing the dips and selling the volleys. >> are you expecting that we will be able to get into this market as better prices at lower prices at some point before year end? >> that would be a very short-term question. i don't know the answer to it. >> and you're not a short-term guy. >> eric, what about you? how are you allocating capital these days? >> you know, we're allocating capital much the same way we have been doing for the last few months, which is thinking, again, sort of long term like was just said. you can do things around the fringes, but they have to be, you know, considered a small move rather than something aggressive. we still don't have enough answers to know what the ultimate outcome is going to be. >> mark, what about you? you know, we tend to oversimplify. right now the feeling is resolution t
. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consistently. >> i will say amen to that. >>> if at first you don't succeed, coming up, south korea trying to launch another rocket. find out how it went this time. >>> and if you are leaving the house now, watch us any time on your desk top or your mobile phone, just go to cnn.com/tv. a , try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. but when i was in an accident... i was wo
. >>> rejected. the gop snubs the white house's opening offer in fiscal cliff talks. >>> upgraded palestine celebrates a new status despite stiff american opposition. >>> rich and now famous. we know the identity of one of those lucky power ball jackpot winners. >> that's good news. >> can't wait to meet that person. >> good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. it's friday. >> happy friday. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00. the middle east is getting ugly. insult and finger pointing in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him
on statement out of this week's fiscal cliff talks, they'll also be watching for friday's release of the november jobs report and what impacts superstorm sandy and those fiscal fears may have had on hiring. meanwhile, the national retail federation is asking congress to step in and stop striking clerical workers who shut down 10 of 14 terminals at two california ports. the group estimates the now week-long strike is costing $1 billion a day. >>> edward glen hayden, managing director and head of global interest rates at morgan stanley, pictured here during his days at goldman sachs is being investigated by commodities and futures regulators. according to "the new york times," the question is whether hayden's trading manipulated the price of treasury futures while he was back at goldman in 2008. >>> news corp. announced the ceo of its uk newspaper operations who took the reins in july of last year is stepping down. >>> swiss banking giant ubs is reportedly close to reaching a $450 million settlement with u.s. and british authorities over an interest rate-rigging scandal that rocked
. talk to us about that. >> the fiscal cliff, one of the things if we're really going to go over it and change the tax basis, the treasury has to call on corporate america to change the withholding tables. all of us get taxes withheld. if they're going to change what rate i'm going to be taxed at, they're going to have to change that table. that's not an overnight process. certainly, the treasury can't afford to let that go too long because everybody will be underwithheld. they'll get a big tax bill. there will be a riot among the people if that happens. what i'm watching is the treasury. if they get nervous enough, they'll ask them to change the tax tables. so far it looks like they smell a deal and haven't asked for it yet. you think we're going to get a deal? >> i think they may try to push it to the end. the other thing i'm watching for is the 17th when the president is due to take his family to hawaii. i don't think he wants to be in hawaii without a deal. something is going to come up. >> ron, what about you? >> i thought the resignation of senator jim demint, who was a sta
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
. let's talk about allocating capital. what do i do in the face of uncertainty, fiscal cliff, global, how do you want to allocate capital? >> we've been advocating clients stay diversified and the clear recollection that central banks had desire to increase wealth effect among stock and bond holders. have you to be careful of long-only actions. we had implemented hedge funds into our investors' portfolios, looking for nondirectional strategies like long short equity, currencies, assets that aren't as directly influenced or don't have as much beta in them relative to typical equity and bond portfolio. >> great point. i guess, you know what, if i had to pick who is the face of 2012 for the year, you know how "time" does the person of the year, who's the face of 2012, i would say federal reserve, ben bernanke, he was there all year, stimulus, got to be there till 2015. is that the only thing we have going for us in terms of certainty in this market right here? >> they're certainly the biggest player. you know, we have a fed meeting coming up on the 11th. that will increase volatility in
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the talk of a fiscal cliff. record numbers and they have spent little that they have left on the ticks on the power ball. is this a tax on the poor? and the numbers point that out. it is a tax on the poor. for some people this is fun and games and i don't regret or be gruth anything to anybody. i think of the movie waiting for superman there were parts of that movie that i had an issue with. everyone who saw these kids kiting with the parents with the school meetings with the balls bouncing around hoping that their number would come up so that they could get a seat. when you see those balls bouncing around. again, when education becomes a lottery, we become a problem. what about black friday? is it healthy that americans rush out with 8% unemployment. by all of these deals and so on? is that healthy to be having this happen on friday it carried on over the weekend. it is. >> the short answer is when you have corporate greed and indifference and some bad decisios a lottery ticket isn't going to bail you out. we allow ourselves to be sucked in. we have got caught up and we can't seem to
to get you up to speed on the day's headlines here on cnn. fiscal cliff talks are turning into a high-stakes game of chicken. secretary tim geithner said there's no deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we'll have to make. >> republicans are furious. they don't like democrats drawing a red line in the sand. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it is pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. >> president barack obama and gop leaders held one face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the kansas city chiefs suited up and took the field today against carolina. that's despite the shock and horror of yesterday's suicide of linebacker jevon belcher. stay right there with full details in a full report on cnn in just a minute. >>> high winds and heavy rain are pummeling the northwest. the rainfall will continue throughout the
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the looming fiscal cliff. talked about business concerns as you head into the end of the year and even what to expect in 2014. bank of america has 55 million customers here in america. they represent one out of every two households. so moynihan has a very good idea about what consumers are doing and if they spending less because of the fiscal cliff. here's what he had to say. >> i'm more about business behavior than consumer behavior. people continue to spend, housing is a little better. all the things that affect stock market are in decent shape. the question was will everything going on cause them on slow down again. >> what are you you see rg businesses right now? >> almost a year and a halving a go, businesses getting concerned about the nature of the dialogue about the fiscal situation? washington and in europe and the issues that had to be dealt with long term and how it affects near term business in terms of what would be accelerated appreciation for investment in business. what will be the final demand. so the uncertainty factor started weighing in and caused everybody to be much mo
, and we'll talk about the fiscal cliff in a minute, about the midst of the fiscal cliff and who's doing what, this is a huge news story, dropped on capitol hill that seemed to take everybody by surprise. what's the reaction up there. >> reporter: the pieces that are less sprying look at the fact that republicans failed to reclaim majority, that always has an influence on how much power senators think they have if they're among the minority. jim demint said he would not seek another term. at some point there was a plan for him to forecast his future. the timing of doing it right now certainly caught people by surprise. but it also is a point where it tells you that he feels comfortable that the voice of objection on some things has been the seed has been filled here. he's got a mike lee of utah, rand paul of kentucky, who can fill some of the void that he would be leaving. it really is also, perhaps, good news for someone like mitch mcconnell, he can with his own reelections coming up not have the counterweight of jim demint's considerable presence within the chamber. so there are some i
not talk about but it is something that's on the radar is that, as the fiscal cliff fears rise, interest rates fall on the 10-year. so the effect the fed would have from easing is already in -- already happening as a market reaction. >> steve, thank you. >>> when jeff kilburg is not fired up about the irish he is fired up about what mr. dudley said today. why? >> absolutely. he came out with very dovish comments. he lass a permanent vote and he is quite the confidant of ben bernanke. so he flat-out gave a wink-wink, there's something big coming in less than two weeks. >> he's been a dove for a long time though. no change but just to hear it articulated gives you some sense of -- >> it does. this could be a one-two punch. if the fomc comes out with additional measures, subsequent week later, all of a sudden they have the fiscal cliff resolution, bam, we could see a test of the 1,460 of the s&p. is there story in "the journal" about more action possible out of the fed. >>> taking a look at shares of advance auto parts reportedly the auto parts retailer put itself out for auction but the bi
'll be talking exclusively to two of the nation's top ceo on how the fiscal cliff will impact their businesses. that's later on in "the closing bell." stay with us. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from heartburn 2 or more days a week, why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> welcome back. the fight over the fiscal cliff heating up with both parties accusing the other of failing to offer substantial plans. >> to this point, that's right. without a deal, automatic spending cuts and higher taxes will kick in january 1st. that's something our next guest wants to avoid. we welcome back democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. good to see you. welcome back. >> good to be back. >> we're at that awkward part of t
which is this part being attributed to the comments. u.s. popped on fiscal cliff talks. for now markets like what they see. the exception as becky noted was the shanghai comcomposite, ugly ugly. it has continued to sink. in the meantime want to draw your attention to the bond wall because if you look at spain and italy, we've seen yields come down quite a bit. 5.25% is the level on the spanish ten year. 4.535 on italy. italy also auctioned off five and ten year debt. france and belgium seeing uncertain thunmad uncertain maturities. now, want to draw your attention to uk banks. we're waiting in just about two hours the levinson report on press ethics that was spawned of course spurred by the phone hacking. in the meantime bank of england's report on financial stability that caught the market's attention. strong words about banks needing to raise capital. that's still going on. hearing from paul tucker who was passed over for the next boe job. for the most part still seeing green arrows across the board. what accounts for the fact they're doing so well? for one we've known these concerns
the same situation -- >> do you blame this on the fiscal cliff in part? >> it's part of it. we talk about four gray swans, eurozone, middle east, china, hard/soft landing, definitely soft in our view, and last but not least what's going on here. back to our conversation in may, we said all the focus on the eurozone crisis, it will turn to america pre-the election as it has done and post the election the fiscal cliff is a critical issue. and every day you get a different view. i was in washington, what, would weeks ago, came away very, very concerned because all the experts were negative. and then you sort of felt a little bit, you saw the president reaching out to business and vice versa. you saw the fix the debt movement and ceos making a strong move on the hill. but yesterday things took a turn for the worse. so i guess we'll have these ups and down, but most of the people i talked to wouldn't bet on a solution by december the 31st. in those circumstances, people are not going to make commitments. >> what if we have a solution by the middle of january? is that something that is -- 1 it
when he talks to julia boorstin and live coverage of the president with remarks on the fiscal cliff before the business roundtable. can he convince corporate leaders he has the right solution for avoiding the fiscal cliff. one more look at futures this morning on a wednesday. look like open 28. "squawk on the street" is back in a minute. >> there's a look at citi. the news on the bank this morning cutting 11,000 jobs. still working on a percentage of what that is on the overall workforce. they think it will be a pretax charge of about a billion dollars. savings of 900 million in 2013. rising to about 1.1 billion in 2014. we'll keep an eye on that name. >> very big. >> yeah. shares of pandora taking a hit in premarket trade. online music service beat expectations with third quarter results. ceo joe kennedy says pandora's advertisers are displaying caution about spending because of the fiscal cliff. he'll be on "squawk on the street" at 11:40 eastern time. and netflix paying for exclusive rights to stream disney movies. a lot of happenings moving stocks in a big way. with pandora, ana
steadily closer to the fiscal cliff, there are high level talks between the white house and congress. can they cut a deal in time? as mexico's bloody drug wars claim another high profile victim can a new leader end the violence. i'll speak exclusively with mexico's new president. and it was hidden away for decades. we'll take the wraps off a long secret u.s. plan to explode a nuclear bomb on the moon. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in the situation room. >>> we begin with huge confrontations shaping up between president obama and republicans involving the most important decisions the president needs to make in his second term. >> we're now a month away from the so called fiscal cliff. a drastic combination of mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes that could plunge the united states back into a recession. while there are plenty of hard w0rds from both sides, some terms of a possible zeal are making the rounds. kate bolduan has been following the back and fourth. >> don't get too excited about that, there's only one way
@alexwit. >>> apparent progress in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. it appears both sides may be digging in their heels. nbc's mike viqueira joins me from the white house with the very latest. if there's anything new to report. seems like everyone is in their own separate corners, mike. >> reporter: it's no longer november. this is december 1st. it's a new month, the last month before we go over the fiscal cliff. now both sides after a lot of bipartisan talk of compromise in that post-election period, alex, it turns out what we have now a typical washington standoff. >> the president of the united states. >> reporter: visiting a toy factory outside philadelphia, the president urged congress to act and avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, he says, taxes go up for everyone, including the middle class. >> it's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: with the election over the president has begun a new kind of campaign, for votes in congress. a series of white house meetings with business leaders, a grassroots effort on twitter, and friday's t
, a lot of news to get to on this monday. first, of course, talks over the fiscal cliff. they are going nowhere fast. democrats, they're basically telling republicans, hey, ball's in your court. we'll take you live to the white house for that. also, as the city grieves over an nfl player's tragic breaking point, new debates today about gun control and domestic violence. you'll hear both. but first, the u.s. has long believed syria has a huge stockpile of chemical weapons. now new concerns that chemical arsenal is on the move. secretary of state hillary clinton today issuing another stern warning against syria, using these weapons. the syrian foreign ministry quick to respond here saying it would not use chemical weapons against its people if it had any, but this announcement as turkey is sending warplanes to its border with syria after the syrian military bombed a nearby town of ras al-ain. you can hear that and see the smoke. this is the turkish side of the border. this is fueling more fears that more of syria's violence will spill into its neighbor to the north, being turkey. security
at bloomberg and talked about the republican offer from speaker boehner on the fiscal cliff resolution. he said it was out of balance because the speaker has not agreed to rate increases but the president identified a two-step process by which he is hoping still to reach an agreement before the end of the year, if he can get republicans to give on the top rate. he said that first of all, we can't do a fundamental tax reform in the next two weeks. we simply have to have a down payment before the end of the year and then commit to tax and entitlement reform during the year of 2013. he also specified, and i think this is significant, that he thought 300 to $400 billion over ten years is about what you could raise by closing loopholes and trimming deductions. this is a -- this is a way to come to grips with how to get to the revenue target the president wants. let's first of all listen to -- we have got a piece of sound from that interview. let's listen to the president. >> when you look at how much revenue you can actually raise by closing loopholes and deductions, it's probably in the range of $3
to say. >> stephanie: oh. >> caller: all of this talk about the fiscal cliff. i like you don't buy it but more importantly i'm getting ready to be twenty-four, and back in my grandpa's time we had a thing called glass spiegel, we put a man on the moon because of it. we built hoover dam. alaska wouldn't have been alaska without it. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: you know this policy -- you probably know more about it than i do. i have only read about it in political science class, but i was wondering wouldn't it be better if we went back to something like that, instead of just reinforcement of to clinton era tax rates and the reagan tax rates -- why don't we just go back to the old way of doing things -- >> stephanie: exactly. >> caller: because the rich -- we had billionaires with all of those taxes -- >> stephanie: that's right. absolutely. charlie cristenson said that this morning. the fact that there is all this hysteria over oh no we might have to go to the low 30s percent range. [ screaming ] [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: all righ
the fiscal cliff and caterpillar's ceo joins us from the nyse to talk about the fix the debt campaign and more. you know anything we don't know, doug, that you can tell us about how this finally looks and whether we do it? >> i don't know if i know any more than you do or not, joe, but we've all been working hard to impress upon our leadership in washington how important this is not to go over the cliff. we had good sessions with republican leadership, democratic leaderships and with president obama in the white house. nobody over there wants to go over the cliff at this time, there's nothing that wants to do it. >> once we get over it, we hope it's a bridge to something that will help you and caterpillar compete better in the world. after the cliff, what do you want? is there any emphasis on corporate tax reform that we need or how to bring $2 trillion back to this country? aren't those things, did you talk about any of those or the cliff? >> we talked about all of those, long-term competitiveness for our country, immigration reform that needs to happen, and there's a lot of bipartis
are higher, as well. in your morning headlines today, the fiscal cliff dominating the sunday talk show circuit. treasury secretary tim geithner expressing on meet the press that republicans will accept the president's plan to raise income taxes. >> what we're trying to do is make it more likely we come together on a good agreement for the american people that extends tax cuts for the middle class. we're going to start long-term deficits down, tough savings is part of that and investment, things that matter to the american economy. like frut, things to help americans to get back to work. we have a good chance to it now and it's very important we're going to do that. >> secretary geithner said that if republican leaders have alternatives on reducing the deficit, they need the offer their propose yaels to the government. >>> manufacturing activity in china has hit a new high. hsbc's manufacturing purchasing index came in at 55 in november. it separates expansion from contraction. and the latest twilight film was number one at the weekend box office for the thrt straid straight weekend. it
, the fiscal cliff we're talking about has all kinds of components to it. it's the estate tax death tax, capital gains, dividend, alternative minimum tax, all the things that will harm a vast majority of americans from a tax standpoint in a significant and fundamental way. we believe those rates ought no increase. the president is willing to play politics and take us to the brink of raising those tax rates on virtually every single american. that's not what we believe is the kind of activity will get our economy and jobs rolling again. >> the white house will argue they're not the ones holds out to protect the top 2%, that it's the republicans doing that. >> great point, chris, the problem is what the president is holding out for is a nonsolution. the tax increases that the president wants on the top 2% will run this government not for eight years or eight weeks or eight weeks but run this government for eight days, which means it's not a solution. the president is not interested in real policy solutions by evidenced by what he has proposed, he's interested in politics and that's the ch
data. >> back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> as talks over the fiscal cliff continue, you will want to hear what republican senator rand paul had to say about deficit reductions and the controversial norquist tax pledge. >>> also ahead -- >> still to come, with the fiscal cliff getting closer. >> if i was involved in a negotiation like that and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say an agreement was reachable. >> former centr [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even
of the big issues is anybody really talking about what to do with the fiscal cliff other than news conferences an the appearances on the floor and the message is there aren't really serious negotiations going back and forth just yet. the critical moments probably later in december when the pressure of the calendar is greater, tamron. >> all right. kelly o'donnell, thank you. joining us now is congressman yarmuth. about a week ago you were on with my colleague and said you were growing more pessimistic about reaching a deal before the back and forth we have seen. how do you feel right now? >> well, i'm still pretty pessimistic about a deal and optimistic to at least avoid the tax part of the cliff. i get the sense that a growing number of republicans are willing to let the senate bill come to the floor here in the house. which would get almost every democratic vote and a fair number of republican votes. as long as speaker boehner doesn't require there be a majority of his majority to pass that bill, i think we can get that done. i have a sense that's kind of a way we're moving. as t
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tomorrow we'll have both republican ares and democrats onto talk about the fiscal cliff. it is going to be an interesting show with some fireworks. ac 360 starts now. wolf blitzer is in for anderson cooper. >> thank you. not choosing sides or playing favorite ares there is plenty of that on the other cable news channels. we are interested in facts. they do exist. tonight, the facts about taxes that the majority of americans established on election day. the nation's leading conservative paper is onboard. they now agree with the president who wants to let taxes go up on income on more than $250,000 a year. doing a deal to raise those rates. where all bush cuts on all tax brackets expire at the end of the year. that is something that gives president obama a lot of clout right now. you can agree or disagree with the president obama policy that is for you to decide. congressman happens to disagree strongly but recognizes that the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january 1st. >> in my view, we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make
discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strategy to victory but he was a charismatic african-am
making his case for action on the fiscal cliff today in pennsylvania. we'll talk to republican congressman jim gerlach from that state about the trip and what needs to happen to get a deal done. >> one thing is for sure, fiscal cliff comments from washington have been having an impact. >> i would hope our friends on the other side can turn off the campaign. >> we could have prevented this crisis months ago. by just simply adopting what passed in the senate. >> president obama is meeting with high profile chief executive officers today to talk about country's fiscal issues. >> we're here to support doing the right thing and putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know the consequences of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. >> i'm optimistic we'll continue to work together. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. >> stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress
manage president obama's re-election campaign. we'll talk more about the fiscal cliff. >>> first a look at other stories that are making news today. zoraida has that for us. >> good morning to you. the death toll in the philippines is rising this morning. typhoon bopha moving toward beach resorts in the northern part of the country and right now it is packing winds over 90 miles an hour. that storm has already caused massive flooding and landslides in the southern philippines. dozens of buildings have been destroyed and the death toll stands at 133 with hundreds more still missing. >>> meantime in rain soaked seattle there are concerns about more mudslides. meteorologist karen maginnis joins us live from atlanta with the latest. they cannot get a break. >> they really can't, and for some folks, this is not coming as good news because it looks like that pineapple express, that moisture coming from deep within the pacific, that's going to be shut off, but we've still got the moisture coming in from the gulf of alaska and that's going to lower the snow levels across the cascades and the ol
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's moving this morning. >> happy tuesday. the fiscal cliff still being talked about here. there's a certain realization that the rough outlines of a deal are already available here. modest tax raises, some spending cuts, that's the real rub there. extent of spending cuts. the bad news if you want to look at it this way and i said it several times in the last few days, the era of american austerity is about to begin. we have seen some of it going on in parts of europe. it's about to begin here. my sense is that it will be gentle austerity in 2013 and into 2014. at least in the very beginning part of this thing. other good news, housing numbers and autos have been good recently. you saw toll brothers yesterday. gm did not bad although the trucking was light. the fed, they're going to continue to expand their qe program likely at the meeting on december 12th. depends on whether that's good or bad news to you. that will provide some cushion against austerity. so a mixed realization about where all of this is going. one of the reasons the markets are holding up well. the toll numbers. i want to
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sup 15%, sir is up 15%, and mac up 5%. >>> we have been talking about the fiscal cliff, why it may matter to you, but jay leno made lindsay lohan a part of the punch line. >> are you sick and tired of hearing this term fiscal cliff? oh. it turns people off. they don't understand it. doesn't tell you how serious the situation is. they need more colorful metaphors. you know what i'm saying? here's how they should explain it. it's 4:00 a.m. for our economy, and lindsay lohan is behind the wheel. that says danger. people understand that. they understand that. >> everyone in l.a. goes nuts when it rains. oh, no it's raining! it's never been this bad before! people are taking shelter under meg ryan's lips, the whole city -- the whole city smells like a wet kardashian! it's panic here! lindsay lohan went to jail just to stay dry! >> "early start" continues right now. >>> the kansas city chiefs pull off a win the day after one of their own commits suicide. we have new details about his death, the murder of his girlfriend and what happens now to their 3-month-old baby. >>> flooding hits cal
john boehner why republicans met today to talk about the fiscal cliff and then are going to go home after the meeting and await for the president's response. here's what mr. boehner said. >> reporter: today's wednesday and the house is going to leave today with two days left in the week. i understand that you are saying that there's no legislation that's been on the floor. but when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> mr. speaker, does the conference perhaps realize that you don't seem to be negotiating in all of this? >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. because raising rates will hurt the very people that we're expecting to upgrade jobs in our country. >> all right. house speaker john boehner. let's head back to capitol hill and check in with d
the market has priced in the notion we would go over the fiscal cliff -- >> you're wrong. no. everybody -- who you talking to? i keep talking to people and they -- who you talking to? >> i actually spoke with a source the other day who is in washington, he's an attorney, who said, listen -- >> a lawyer? >> a lawyer but speaks to a lot of folks that are wall street types who says the market could take it for a couple of weeks. we're not talking months. >> the cake is baked and they think the intelligence of politicians is up to this challenge. >> but wall street doesn't really have a lot of faith in this process to be able to get done. they have priced in just a little bit that this could happen for a while. maybe not for months, but you wouldn't see the market necessarily crash like the next day. you'd have time. >> thank you, joy reid. thank you. >>> tonight, how their own polls fooled the romney campaign into thinking they had this baby won. what went wrong for those guys. did republicans lose the election because voters rejected mitt romney or because they rejected what romney was sa
is recovering. if we were talking about the fiscal cliff two years ago they would never be able to let this fall through because we were close to recessionary times. we're out of recession. housing prices are beginning to recover. jobs are starting to come back. we're seeing, i think, a manufacturing renaissance back to north america. that is going to be positive through this. >> how much are you hanging your bullish hat on the amount of cash on the sidelines? you've identified already identified that. the fact corporations need to put that money to work, we're underinvested. your bullish call, seems to me, is based on those corporations finally getting off the dime and putting that money to work. is that the idea? >> it's a big part of it. how investment works, right, you build up capacity from a scarcity level, right? you have too much capacity and correct back down again. that was the '90s. we took on a bunch of capacitity and then the first ten years of this millennium we stripped out capacity when the rest of the world was building up capacity. now we have cash on the balance sheet we can s
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$21 billion in assets under management. with the fiscal cliff hanging in the balance, how is the ceo putting that money to work? he joins me in a cnbc exclusive right now to talk about that and more happening in real estate and housing. nice to have you on the program. >> nice to be here. >> what are you hearing out there? what's your take first on the fiscal cliff? what are you seeing in terms of customers? how is it influencing your decisions? >> i'd say it's paralyzed everybody. you're hearing this from everybody. we all are sort of watching this dance in washington and not understanding, like -- i think it's common sense has left washington. you have to come up with spending cuts. i think those of us that will be targeted in a tax hike, which i don't consider a tax hike, really. i think the payroll tax cut, which didn't really work, it didn't boost the economy. also, the rising capital in income tax rates is acceptable, but only if the democrats get serious about cutting spending. >> so far, we haven't seen any real ideas in terms of -- >> it's a joke. it's a joke. you get more r
with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers u
have been talking about the fiscal cliff, it is like we can just dial back to last summer and yet what has hand since this then [♪ "jeopardy" theme music ♪] >> stephanie: oh, i know the president won in a landslide. [ applause ] >> stephanie: good morning representative sandy levin. >> good morning. >> stephanie: let me borrow a term from john boehner, i am flabbergasted by the budget which they put forward, which is basically paul ryan's budget right? >> more or less. i mean it's basically a repeat. they come up with revenues but they won't touch tax rates, and they don't really say how they get the revenues. they would get it from what they call loopholes, deductions. they don't specify where it would come from so really it's a combination of the ryan budget, and what romney -- governor romney began to say toward the end of the election when he was worried a they were being tabbed as the party of the very wealthy, so he said well we won't lower taxes on the very wealthy, because we'll get ahold of loop holds and deductions, but they never said what they
had, a chance. >> back to what you were talking about with the fiscal cliff. do you think depending on what the republicans do here in these final, what, two weeks, might that be sort of a harbinger of things to come, a harbinger of the next republican party? >> yeah. i think it will. i think what you're seeing is a party really having an identity crisis, trying to figure out what it is and who it should stand for and as you see more and more republicans sort of saying, you know what, we don't need to go over the cliff on this particular tax issue out of economic theory, we need to take a stand and appeal to the people who can actually get us elected president in the next presidential campaign and that would be the middle class. and also appeal, trying to appeal in the long-term to those minority voters. the fascinating statistic to me out of this entire election, brooke, was that in 2008, 74% of the electorate was white. this time that went down two points and those two points, one could argue, handed the president re-election and the republican party needs to figure out a way to b
talks to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. utah congressman jason chafe fits joins me now. the president was campaigning today in campaign mode certainly and basically what the democrats and the white house are saying is this is what the american people voted for. all of the exit polls show that there is strong support, more than 60% of the voters, support tax increases for the wealthy. so how do you counter that? >> well, the president also said he was for a balanced approach and what we haven't seen is what is the other side of that balance? the president said he was going to help curb back the debt and tackle this deficit. instead, the president has the gull to actually go out and suggest that we should get rid of the debt ceiling votes and take away congress' ability to help put a lid on that. essentially wants a limitless credit card. that is a nonstarter for us in the house of representatives and the president should share with us what he thinks he should be cutting. not just 10, 20 years out in advance, what are we going to cut in year one naepts wh. that's what i want to hear fro
you for that reporting from washington. >>> president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. in his first television interview since the election, that cliff, of course the combination of government spending cuts and tax increases that automatically go into effect on january 1st because people we elected to make a deal can't make a deal. yesterday, republicans proposed steep spending cuts but gave no ground on president obama's call to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. here's what the president told bloomberg's white house correspondent about that. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenue but was he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the platte it doesn't work. when i've said is, i am prepared to work with the speaker and democrats and republicans to go after excessive health care costs in our federal health care system, we're going to have to strengthen those systems and i think we can do that without hurting seniors, without hurting beneficiaries
to see it in the next 48 to 72 hours. >> chuck, we are talking about the fiscal cliff here and basically, i mean, i know next to nothing about the fiscal cliff or the negotiations that are going on. is your sense that there's more going on behind the scenes than what we talk about or what's in the papers? >> you know, i love -- no. there's not. i mean -- >> you mean we're right? >> no, it's one of those -- it's amazing. i think we all assume oh, there's got to be real stuff going on. this is just -- and maybe this is an elaborate ploy, right, that the president and boehner said okay, we're going to do all this and then magically we'll bring it all together as everybody feels everything's going to heck in a handbasket. but no, there's not a lot going on sort of behind the scenes. there isn't a backroom -- yes, rob neighbors who's the chief congressional liaison for the white house, he checks in daily with boehner's and mcconnell's office, but there's not real negotiations going on like we saw in the last ten days. but i also am a little bit of -- i think everybody should just go to -- you
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